My Shepard & John Ancestors

JOHN, Corporal Clarence Fredrick

Male 1898 - 1954  (55 years)


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  • Name JOHN, Clarence Fredrick  [1
    Prefix Corporal 
    Born 29 Oct 1898  Oconto, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Census 1930 Census...
    Can’t find in any indexes for the whole USA.

    Details of 1940 US Federal Census, Laona Township, Forest County, Wisconsin
    Supervisors district 8, ED 21-13, Sheet No. 21 A [lines 39-40] & B, [lines 41-43]; household number 375, homed owned, lives as a farm
    39. Johns, Clarence [answered questions] head, male, white, age 41, married, had not attended school since March 1939, completed 1 year of college, born in Wisconsin, lived in a different place April 1, 1935, Oconto, Wisconsin, wasn’t on a farm, was doing government work during week of March 24th 1939, number of hours worked then 36, senior clerk for U.S. Forestry Station, type of work CA [code], no. of hours worked in a week 32, salary received $560, did not receive money from other source, no. 10 on farm schedule.
    40. Johns Myrtle, wife, female, white, age 33, married had not attended school since March 1939, competed 3 years of college [nursing school], born in Minnesota, lived in a different place April 1, 1935, Oconto, Wisconsin, wasn’t on a farm, wasn’t working in government work, not working, was not seeking work, did not have a job, worked in the home.
    sheet 21B
    41. Johns, Claire, daughter, female, white, age 5, single, attended school, born in Wisconsin, R, Oconto, Wisconsin, not on farm
    42. Johns, Victor, son, male, white, age 4, single, no school, born in Wisconsin
    43. Johns, Carol, daughter, female, white, age 2, single, no school, born in Wisconsin

    EXTRA QUESTIONS FOR CLARENCE:
    Father born in Wisconsin, mother born in Wisconsin, was a veteran, war service, does have a SS number, no deductions for old age insurance or RR were made in 1939, deductions made from all wages, usual occupation is a senior clerk for U.S. Forestry, government worker 
    Census 1900  Cavour, Forest County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • See Victor H. John for details.
    Census 1905  Town Of Wabeno, Forest County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • See Victor H. John for details.
    Census 1910  Hackley, Vilas County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • See Victor H. John for details.
    Census 1920  Crandon, Forest County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • See Victor H. John for details.
    Census 1940  Laona, Forest County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • See notes for details.
    Died 13 Feb 1954  Gillett, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4
    • at 3:30 pm of a heart attack.
    Buried 16 Feb 1954  Wausau, Marathon County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • Pine Grove Cemetery Wausau, WI / obit says buried the 17th
    Person ID I2176  Shepard and John Tree
    Last Modified 6 Dec 2017 

    Father JOHN, Victor Hugo,   b. 13 Feb 1872, Gillett, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Apr 1956, Oconto Falls, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years) 
    Mother CAIN, Gertrude Marie,   b. 9 Aug 1877, Oconto, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Feb 1962, Gillett, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years) 
    Married 28 Aug 1897  Carter, Armstrong, Oconto County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 6
    • at 4:15 pm
    Notes 
    • Married on the Train.
      A romantic wedding took place on the train between Gillett and Wabeno Saturday August 28. The contracting parties in this happy event were Mr. Victor John, the genial station agent at Wabeno, and Miss Gertie Cain of Oconto. The bride, accompanied by justice Newald of Gillett, took the 1:30 train from the latter place and when near the county line between Oconto and Forest counties, they were met by the groom and his party who had come to meet them on a handcar, as it was necessary to have the nuptial knot tied on Oconto county territory. The train was stopped and Justice Newald lost no time in declaring the lovers man and wife. Miss May Lecourt. who accompanied the groom from Wabeno was bridesmaid and Mike Arsnean was best man. The event was celebrated by a long continuous blast of locomotive whistle and the joyous ringing of the bell. The newly married couple are well known in Oconto. [7]
    Family ID F1747  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 EDWARDS, Esther 
    Married 10 Jan 1922  Waukegan, Lake County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 9
    Divorced 24 Oct 1923  Merrill, Lincoln County, WIsconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11
    Notes 
    • Clarence John Married
      The marriage of Miss Esther Edwards to Clarence John, both of White Lake, was published in the Milwaukee papers last Friday among the Waukegan weddings. Clarence is the eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. V. H. John, former Crandon residents. The bride also has acquaintances in this city having visited here several times. Their local friends extend congratulations.

      It appears that Esther was possibley pregnant when they married. I do not know if that was why they married as she was only about a month gone, this is calculating from marriage date to birth date of Marie. [8]
    Children 
     1. JOHN, Gertrude Marie,   b. 8 Aug 1922, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Aug 1992, Sonoma County, California Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 
    Family ID F1860  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 HAMM, Myrtle Caroline,   b. 8 Jul 1906, Duluth, St. Louis County, Minnesota Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Jun 1966, Pewaukee, Waukesha County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years) 
    Married 9 May 1931  Rockford, Winnebago County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Children 
     1. (Private)
     2. (Private)
     3. JOHN, Carole L.,   b. 25 Jan 1938, Laona, Forest County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Dec 1997, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years)
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 
    Family ID F1692  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    Clarence Frederick John
    Clarence Frederick John
    Clarence in Florida, looks like he is enjoying his hootch. This was taken in the early 1930s.
    Clarence Fredrick John and Myrtle Caroline Hamm
    Clarence Fredrick John and Myrtle Caroline Hamm
    This is my favorite picture of my John grandparents. They are on their honeymoon trip in Florida in the early 1930s. This image is found in one of the family albums
    Deputy Sherrif's badge
    Deputy Sherrif's badge
    This is Clarence Fredrick's deputy sheriff's badge from Forest County, Wisconsin. Not sure when but possibly in the 1920s. His father Victor Hugo John was elected sheriff twice, in Forest County, in the late teens of 1900 and was acting sheriff in the 1920 census.

    Documents
    Crossing the Arctic Circle certificate
    Crossing the Arctic Circle certificate
    Clarence John received this certificate on his trip to Greenland during WWII. He had officially crossed the latitude 66'33" line for the first time on the ship Fairfax.

    Headstones
    Clarence F. John and Myrtle Hamm John
    Clarence F. John and Myrtle Hamm John
    This headstone is located in Pine Grove cemetery in Wausau, Wisconsin.

  • Sources 
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    9. [S1100] date of marriage to Clarence indicated on marriage registration to Oscar.

    10. [S1100] details of first marriage on record includes date [which is a few days off] and place of divorce from Clarence.

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